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with governor romney on this point? >> i have my own point of view. my point of view is that the people of america still believe in the american dream. our responsibility as leaders and public servant to make sure this is a country where everyone has that equal opportunity to compete and pursue their dream. the way i look at it, the point is, think that you look at the records. who has created more opportunities. i mentioned welfare reform. those are folks who were down and out and temporarily needed help. we want to help folks able minded and able bodied. i think that's a natural -- one of the great at tributes of characteristics of all americans. they want a government that reflects their value and gives them the opportunity to reach their aspirations and be that role model for their children. >> i don't think the question of whether governor romneys statements are hard. it's very straight forrard ward. they are divisive comments. >> moderated nbc's david gregory. this debate is courtesy of wrc tv washington d.c. watch the entire debate monday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. the briti
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